In her daily pre-World News webcast “The Conversation” today, ABC’s Diane Sawyer talks with her former producer-turned-author Ben Sherwood whose book was turned into a the Zac Efron movie “Charlie St. Cloud.” Sawyer talks with Sherwood about how one goes from TV News producer to author. They also exchange some old memories and photos.

“Charlie” brought in about $12 million in its opening weekend. As TVNewser reported earlier this week, Sherwood is also a former NBC News producer having been a senior producer on “NBC Nightly News with Tom Brokaw.”